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Jan. 16th, 2004 01:12 pm
[personal profile] lithera
ESPN is 25 years old and they're polling to see who the top 25 athletes of that time period are. I can't seem to rank them but people who would have to be on my list are:

Wayne Gretzky
Jackie Joyner-Kersee
Larry Bird
Carl Lewis
Lance Armstrong
Barry Sanders
Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Martina Navratilova
Alberto Tomba


If it weren't limited to 25 years I'd have to put Marc Spitz on there.

Date: 2004-01-16 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
Oh, duh! Michelle Akers and Mia Hamm.

Date: 2004-01-16 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Mia! I should have thought of Mia on my own. Especially since I just saw a picture of her. Michelle too.

I'm trying to think of any skaters or gymnasts who might be on here.

Date: 2004-01-16 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
The big names were Mary Lou Retton and Kerri Strug. The former may actually deserve it, too. Oh, and Brian Boitano.

[personal profile] gamethyme and I will push for Brian Bosworth.

And Hulk Hogan.

Date: 2004-01-16 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Ooooh. Is he within 25 years?

Date: 2004-01-16 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Keen.

Nadia Comaneci makes it for the 80 Olympics, though only just.

Date: 2004-01-16 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
*laughs*

I was thinking Boitano. There were the Brian wars for a few years. Mary Lou Retton perhaps. The 25 years is limiting for gymnasts.

Katerina Witt?

Date: 2004-01-16 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I'm ignoring that one, personally. I'd have to take Tomba off. Bah, I say.

Date: 2004-01-16 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
It's a tricky thing. With the NHL, especially, so stacked with Europeans, do you let themin because they played in the U.S.? If so, does that clear the way for foreigners who played in other leagues, such as Ichiro and Etchverry? What about all the players in the 1994 World Cup?

If you're going to go worldwide, you can't ignore Ronaldo and Zinedine Zidane, and probably Paolo Maldini, and Peter Schmiechel, and Eric Cantona, and Luis Figo, and Carlos Valderrama and Marco Etcheverry and Jorge Luis Chilavert.

Also, within the North American sphere, Akebono. The first non-Japanese to make a splash in sumo wrestling, and he's one of ours. The other guy, Musashimaru?, was pretty cool too, but it was Akebono who was really The Man.

Date: 2004-01-16 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Akebono is a good call.

Maybe I will limit it, then but that seems such a shame, really.

Date: 2004-01-16 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
And when I say "you" in the first one, I mean ESPN, since they're the one imposing the NA restriction, not you.

Date: 2004-01-16 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I got it. Not me specific but.. Yeah, got it.

The world thing is all crazy, like. Hrm.

This is rough. I don't think I know enough about sports, really, to say. Though I think, for the NA restriction, if you move here to play and you're here over half the year for playing, you should count.

Date: 2004-01-16 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
That would at least exclude people who were here for a month for the World Cup or Olympics and then left. I have an aversion to that rule for soccer reasons, though - Marco Etchverry owns a house here, his kids are in our schools, he lives here year-round pretty much... but he plays for Bolivia. That makes him South American in my head.

With hockey, the international competition isn't as important.

Date: 2004-01-16 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Hmmmmm. I don't know. How would you rule it?

Date: 2004-01-16 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
I guess on nationality, defined as national-team eligibility. If you would play for the United States or Canada, you're in.

Then you just have to worry about Hakeem Olajuwon, the big cheater, who has played for two different countries in the Olympics. (He played on Nigeria's soccer team and the U.S. basketball team.)

Oh, also, Jorge Campos, the Mexican goalkeeper. I'm guessing not a single Mexican will make the list.

Date: 2004-01-16 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
That works for me.

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