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Today is training. I won't be here much to answer comments but I will get to them if you leave them.

Troy on Friday! Anyone up for it? I'm thinking like an 8 or 9 o'clock showing. Let me know.

Talking to Ben this morning about how he saw the video last night of Nick Berg. His comments on it are: It was really ominous at the end. Just like the stories said, they were shouting "God is great!" up until the head came off, and then it was just eerily silent. Just makes me wish it were more clear cut. That these weren't small groups of idiots mixed with good people, but maybe a whole country full of them. I really do think people should watch the full thing, though. I don't think it'll have the effect that the people that made it wanted it to have. Once the emotions settle down, it gives you a lot more to think about. For one thing, I really do believe our leadership is better than that. The image the video presents isn't that of a people unified against us, though. They're no officials, no military. It's 5 or 6 guys with their faces hidden. It really sends that message home, that it's not the whole country. Once the outrage settles, that message will be quite clear.

And on a much lighter note, who knew Link was a hottie? I might have to get a Gamecube just for this game. I have a weakness for Zelda games...

I knew!

Date: 2004-05-12 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostedelves.livejournal.com
who knew Link was a hottie?

Oh purr. Elf molestation = teh BEST. :D

It's those skin-tight leggings and that short little tunic, too. He wants it. You know he wants it.

Re: I knew!

Date: 2004-05-12 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
It doesn't surprise me that you knew, dear. Not at all.

Re: I knew!

Date: 2004-05-12 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostedelves.livejournal.com
Busted. *^_^*

Date: 2004-05-12 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grymor.livejournal.com
Troy good. I'm in.

Date: 2004-05-12 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deqlan.livejournal.com
For one thing, I really do believe our leadership is better than that. The image the video presents isn't that of a people unified against us, though. They're no officials, no military. It's 5 or 6 guys with their faces hidden. It really sends that message home, that it's not the whole country. Once the outrage settles, that message will be quite clear.

...
When I'm convinced out leadership did not allow thousands to die in the WTC so they could have a pretense to war, I might be convinced our leadership is better than that. Right now, though, I picture them sitting in the War Room chanting "Oil is greatest!"

There are no officials because we arrest or kill the officials. No military because we scattered the military. They are freedom fighters in their own minds, and by definition. They are fighting an occupation in their own country, where we brutalize them in their own jails.

I think what happened to Nick Berg is a brutal, cruel, and savage display by a people who want the oppressive military that replaced their oppressive dictator to go home like it said it would. They are at war. Lacking the tanks and missiles and jets, this is how they fight.

One life taken as a display. We take dozens of lives in our displays. Bombs dropped 'accidentally' on civilian targets? Hell, we killed them on display at Abu Ghriab, we just didn't air it on TV. We did it for them to see, the other prisoners. No, it wasn't cutting someone's head off with a knife. It was beating and sodomizing with broom sticks.

This whole war is the deplorable product of deplorable people pursuing deplorable agendas, with a deplorable disregard for the people they claim to represent, and that goes for both sides of the fence.

I guess I just get worked up when people think that America plays by fairer rules. We just cover it up better.

Date: 2004-05-12 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warpdragon.livejournal.com
Exactly.

There are still millions o people who will believe thatthere is abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo or other Iraqi prisons. And who would have denied that there was anything really bad going on at Abu Ghraib. But just because this is thee only one where pictures have gotten out doesn't mean this isn't the only place where it's happened.

Date: 2004-05-12 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I don't think he thinks that we play by fairer rules, having talked to him lots. I think he's just saying that it isn't all Iraqis who want to kill Americans just like it isn't all Americans who want to torture Irqais. Seeing that video helped clarify that for him.

Date: 2004-05-12 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deqlan.livejournal.com
I'd say about an equal percentage of Iraqi's hate Americans as Americans who disapprove of the war. Maybe. Maybe a lot more Iraqis hate Americans, but that's only because we give them a really good reason.

Date: 2004-05-12 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
I always kinda had a crush on Link, but he certainly looks better with more polygons.

On the other hand, the boy who cosplays as Link on the bus downtown from Capitol Hill: SO NOT HOT. Perhaps slightly appealing in a geeky way if he washed the costume, but he does not.

Date: 2004-05-12 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I never really liked Link or the Princess. Which makes me wonder what the appeal of the games really was... I don't know. Huh.

Date: 2004-05-29 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostedelves.livejournal.com
Hey, um, what Gamecube title is that screenshot of the pretty Link from?

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