Quotes...

[lithera]

I think I need to write the quotes on the side of my LJ down into my quote book and to put some new ones up there. There just hasn't been anything that's really, really struck me for a new quote recently. I go through dry spells with that sort of thing. I almost feel as if it is nap time for me. It should be later in the day than this. It really should.

So. They're bringing Hal Jordan back as a Green Lantern. Any thoughts?

I feel I should be a little more insightful and personally revealing here but I feel too detatched to really manage it. I have reasons to be happy but I'm just not connecting to them atm.

I think my computer's fan it going crazy. It almost sounds like my computer is slowly winding up to explode or have the fan break off and go flying. At least that would get me a new one. Bleh.

I forgot about the fact that while working out in the morning wakes me up, it also makes me want to crash for a nap in the afternoon.

There are things I need to write, character things, stories in the back of my head... I just haven't found the beginings of the threads of any of those yet.

Comments

[thezzyzx.livejournal.com]

"So. They're bringing Hal Jordan back as a Green Lantern. Any thoughts?"


Yeah: Thanks a lot spoiler girl ;) I'm not really upset, just so you know... well except that this is a really dumb idea.

[archeon.livejournal.com]

where did you see the green lantern news?

[lithera.livejournal.com]

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/

It's the first article there.

[lithera.livejournal.com]

Meh. It's going to be one of those summer extravanganza thingies, I gather.

I don't know how I feel about it. I'm really coming to like the Green Lantern world and the things in it and I love Hal but .... I don't know if I like it or not as an idea.

[thezzyzx.livejournal.com]

I just wish they could stick to the changes they make. Kill a character? Don't bring them back!

[lithera.livejournal.com]

I know. I generally agree with that as a principle. If someone dies, they should stay dead.

There is an exception and that is if you can make it so that bringing the character back makes as much of an impact as killing them off AND it doesn't make their death pointless.

If a character makes a great sacrifice and so on and so forth... Don't bring them back. That seems silly.

[ocicat.livejournal.com]

Hal is a classic character. Clean, straightforward, a superhero archtype. But at some point a character's history starts to work against them. It becomes just too convoluted. Hal passed that point a long time ago. Went crazy. Killed lots of people. Changed time. Died. Became the Specter. Became GL again? Uh, nevermind.

Everything he had working for him is now gone. He's not an archtype, he's a mess. At this point you just can't have him working as a test pilot and being clean cut. You'll be tripping over his history every other story. So what's the point?

[thezzyzx.livejournal.com]

It just annoys me because there's this small minority of fans (and I almost instinctively typed "Phish fans") who are still angry about Hal and this is their appeasement.

[lithera.livejournal.com]

I don't know if I'd say it is a small minority. Of course, I don't know what the numbers look like at all.

[apestyle.livejournal.com]

I agree with pretty much everything you said here.

Why not just keep John Stewart as GL? At least that way the JLA cartoon and the JLA comic is in synch.

Bah.

[lithera.livejournal.com]

Because John Sterart is the GL in the JLA and the GL in the GL comic is Kyle Rayner and.... there is Alan Scott in the JSA... Jade is with the Outsiders... There are seventy zillion GLs though no Corps...

At the moment Kyle is still the 'one true' GL as it were, or so it seems.

[thezzyzx.livejournal.com]

It wasn't a minority when it happened but Final Night was, what, 8 years ago now? The Spectre stories were quite interesting and Kyle was starting to come into his own. I don't see what problem this is a solution to.

[pullthestars.livejournal.com]

that crash time in the afternoon is when it'll be time to have a snack or something that'll give you some energy. maybe some fruit, a yogurt, crackers, something like that.

[c-jyd.livejournal.com]

Following JSA and all, i've known about this for a while from some of the information there, and related newsboards.
It doesn't surpsise me too much. After all, when they got rid of Hal as GL, they ran through it way too quickly. The Hal fans didn't really get any kind of send-off, they got a rapid story that needed a lot more background to feel right after all he'd been through, and a new character.
There's still a lot of Hal fans out there, even 8 years later. Read some of the fanboards, bring up the 'who's cooler : Hal or Kyle' thing and watch the flames fly. Really.
I like Kyle. I liked Hal. I can't stand John Stewart. He doesn't have Kyle's creativity or Hal's will to really make the ring the bigger than life thing it should be.
I don't like Hal as the Spectre at all. It doesn't fit with me. Hal never had the type of character to make that fit right. Corrigan was the Spectre, and if they had to have one, still should be. But the fact they put Hal there just told me they were giving themselves a legitimate way to bring him back, just in case.

I don't really care about him becoming a GL again. If it means a rebirth of the Corps to a greater degree, then I'm all for it. I'll just be glad he's not the Spectre anymore.

And since he was the first, I still do, and always will consider Alan Scott the 'one true' GL. ;)

[apestyle.livejournal.com]

See that's what I mean. Make The One True GL John Stewart, put him in GL the comic, and keep him in JLA the comic too.

DC doesn't have any other African American heroes of note. Black Lightining? Please he's so 2nd stringer.

[bayushiboy.livejournal.com]

I miss Hal Jordan as the GL. I mean WTF were they thinking turning him into Parallax and then making him the new Spectre. You do not mess with Jim Corrigan as the Spectre. Mandrake and Ostrander's work on the Spectre will never be surpassed. EVAH!!!

[lithera.livejournal.com]

*nods* Very true. I should start having yogurt again.

[lithera.livejournal.com]

I think they'd have to do a lot to John Stewart to make him the One True GL. He's really been left to fallow over the years, or so I think.

[apestyle.livejournal.com]

See, I take direction from the JLA cartoon John Stewart, he's a John Stewart I can get behind. Being ex-military he has that true warrior spirit (unlike that 'roid case wasshisnamewiththebadhaircut).

[lithera.livejournal.com]

Heh. I like the cartoon John Stewart. I really like him. Unfortunately I don't think the comic John Stewart has been that guy in awhile. Or had a chance to be that guy in awhile, might be a more accurate statement.

[anxietygrrl.livejournal.com]

I like Kyle. But whatever, I'm a relative newbie. Bringing Hal back will certainly confuse the newbies, if that's what they're going for.

My computer fan is dying, too. It sounds horrible. I keep waiting for that one final death rattle.

[lithera.livejournal.com]

It's so noisy. I'm waiting for it to explode or something.

[anxietygrrl.livejournal.com]

Yeah, some kind of SPROING! KLANK! BOOM! onomatopoeic disaster.

[warpdragon.livejournal.com]

You mean Guy Gardner?

[lithera.livejournal.com]

Yeah. He probably means Guy.

[c-jyd.livejournal.com]

Amen to that. I'd rather have Corrigan back as the Spectre than Jordan as GL, given a choice.
I don't mind Hal coming back, I guess. If just to have him back in a role that makes sense for him.

[grayarcadian.livejournal.com]

So. They're bringing Hal Jordan back as a Green Lantern. Any thoughts?

"Wow, I need to read the confrontation between him and Kyle, because you know Kyle has been wanting one."

I hope they do not get rid of Kyle. He's my favorite GL. Send Jon off somewhere...

[lithera.livejournal.com]

As far as I can tell, they're not getting rid of anyone but they may be reforming the Corps and sending someone that direction...

Not a Jon fan

[grayarcadian.livejournal.com]

See that's what I mean. Make The One True GL John Stewart, put him in GL the comic, and keep him in JLA the comic too.

The only problem is, Jon is so fucking boring as a Green Lantern. If he had other powers, I'd have no problem, and in fact, I'd probably love the character.

Lemme explain:

The power of the Green Lantern is really two-fold. It draws on the will and creativity of its handler.

Allen Scott is an old-school crime fighter. No affilation with the corps and struggles with the idea that the ring is too powerful for any man to handle of a regular basis. He'd rather just go in with his fists. This gives him a range of villians and struggles to work with.

Guy Gardener is a redneck, in-your-face guy with brain damage. He doesn't think like the other heroes - especially not other Green Lanterns - and his interaction with them is amusing as a result. Also, he has demonstrated the incredible willpower and willingness to go beyone what the other heroes will do.

Hal Jordan is a classic. His major points of interest are his experience (test pilot, astronaut, plus HOW many years in the corp?) but also his willpower. This man makes Batman's drive look like a whim. Because fate did not confort to the design he felt it should, he went and totalled it in order to start again. Nothing stops him. He never gives up. And when he decides on a course of action, you just become very happy he's on your side.

Kyle Rainer is the most creative Green Lantern - hands down. Hal would never think of making green, well-endowed sick nurses to help him back to health. Kyle thinks in pictures and Warner Brothers cartoons. He has this shadow of a hero to walk in and out of and it drives him crazy. It's just fun to watch this average joe fanboy struggle with the realities of being a superhero.

This leaves Jon...He's a Marine. He takes orders...He is not the type to change the entire universe if he set his mind to it. Creative? Him? Does he struggle with the powers? Not in the JLA comics I have. Any struggles with the Hal legacy? Unless you count rebuilding the GL Corps, not really. The biggest advantage he seems to have is being on the damned cartoon, and I wonder about the motives for putting him there more often then I'd like to admit.

[grayarcadian.livejournal.com]

Just have to say "thank you." You put it better than I could.

Re: Not a Jon fan

[lithera.livejournal.com]

The thing is, they never use the creative aspects Jon has. (He's an architect.) They never talk about the fact that without the ring, he can't walk. (At least in the comic this is true.) There is lots there, no one ever uses it.

Regarding John:

[apestyle.livejournal.com]

I didn't know he was an architect!

As far as willpower, if he was high-ranking in the military you gotta have plenty of willpower and have a tactic minded vision. I believe he has both

[apestyle.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that schmuck.