lithera: (Zealot)
lithera ([personal profile] lithera) wrote2003-06-02 04:03 pm

Hmmmm.... She's dead, Jim.


Claremont on bringing back Psylocke, who died: "Things are sort of locked in place. Will it stay that way? That's what I thought about Phoenix. Things can change."

Asked about Psylocke in another panel, Quesada, who has adopted a dead-is-dead policy, said: "He was going in one direction, and the rule came in at the same time. I love Chris, and if he really wants Psylocke back, he's going to have to talk to me."

LET HER STAY DEAD! *mutters about stupidly redundant slutty ass kicking British-Japanese telepath* DEAD DEAD DEAD!

*ahem*
Sorry about that.

[identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care about the stupidly redundant slutty ass kicking British-Japanese part (I actually like Psylocke fairly well); I just think that dead oughta stay dead. More impact that way. :)

[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Dead should be dead, which is the more important part...

However, I liked her before they did all of the ninja-Kwannon/Revanche stuff. I like it when she stood in the background in armor. It was nice that someone wasn't on the front lines.

[identity profile] catwoman980.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish her death had been less sudden and unimportant. She died like a red shirt.

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say it was unimportant. It had a dramatic impact onmany things that happened later.

[identity profile] catwoman980.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not even sure if what I read was the death you're talking about. In the x-men extreme graphic novel she died, and it was barely two panels. The other characters grieved, but only barely. If it's had an impact on the universe since then, I wouldn't know, cause I don't keep up with the x titles other than the occasional graphic novel.

Is that even the death you're talking about?

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. That's the death I'm talking about. It had effects later on in the universe. Fairly large ones, all in all.

[identity profile] wanderingfey.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Given the above quote, one wonders what plans they have for Phoenix...

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she was dead but she came back. More than once. Kinda.

[identity profile] apestyle.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If they are going to renege on any deaths, I'd much rather it be Colossus's. He had so much more potential than anyone knew what to do with. Real shame.

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dead should be fricking dead. DEAD!!!

Challenge!

[identity profile] apestyle.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
If you could say that about oh, say Remy LeBeau, then I believe you.

Re: Challenge!

[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
If they killed him, he should stay dead. I would miss him and I would be very shocked and sad but if were actually dead, he's dead.

This doesn't count for any character is it is just an elaborate hoax the writers panned from the begining and someone just /looked/ to have died, because writers do those things. (I'm thinking like Indy looking like he went over the cliff with the tank in Last Crusade. Not like they have to come up with some magical force or make some thing up or something like that.) Does that make any sense? Like when they "killed" Dazzler a few years ago. It was an illusion. (revealed the next issue)

However in the case of Psylocke - she's a statue and her ghost visited from the astral plane. That's really dead.

[identity profile] anxietygrrl.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not entirely convinced that a blanket dead-is-dead rule is the way to go, but I do think that if a character is brought back from the dead, they should at least have been dead long enough for the resurrection to mean something. Betsy's definitely not been dead long enough, and for her, though I liked her, frankly I'm comfortable with dead-is-dead.

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that if someone dies, they should stay dead. Honestly. Unless there is an amazingly good reason (like they didn't actually die in the first place and there is a way to work that) they should stay dead.

Besty - statue
Piotr - death ended the Legacy virus

These people shouldn't be able to come back.

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[identity profile] anxietygrrl.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree on those two characters, definitely. And really, as a general rule. I just don't think storytellers should limit themselves with any kind of 100% all-the-time dead-is-dead blanket policy.

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[identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com 2003-06-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
There are always exceptions but I haven't seen anyone who might actaully get one yet.