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So, now that I've seen it a second time, I'm going to share my thoughts on the movie. I haven't really put them into any sort of order or any sort of sense but here they are.

This movie effected me almost exactly like the first one. There was nothing in it that made me stop and go, 'Oh my God that was /so/ cool!' No, I watched this movie with a slow sense of dawning affirmation. Some how the movie managed to make me feel more confident about my personal beliefs much like the first one. I'm still not exactly sure why that is or how that is, but it makes me want to sit down and talk to the Brothers.

I figured out what was wrong with Neo's sword technique in the second watching. He was using the wrong kind of sword for it.

Morpehus' speech in the temple still bothers me. To me it doesn't feel like he's talking to a bunch of people who are scared or who would follow his every word or anyone at all. To me it still feels like he's shouting at an empty room.

I still feel as though there are pieces of the story that are missing. I know that some of them are in the Animatrix and Enter the Matrix but that just seems lame to me. I can see some of the missing peices in the puzzle but it's like trying to describe the missing piece by touch alone.

My favorite fight was the one with Seraph. It was imply, elegant and the camera angles didn't bother the hell out of me. And Seraph has a style that is lovely to watch.

Mmmmmmmm. Ducati.

Neo's ability to sense the machines in the 'real world' doesn't surprise me in the least. There are too many things that he has been able to cause or were caused for him there already for me to be surprised by it. I'm still wondering what Neo's abilites really are. In fact, now that I think about it I would love to watch this again with Brian. Some of the things we talked about in our conversation about Mage are problems for me with this movie.

All of the new characters - cool. Was very sad to see the Keymaker die. Merovingan and Perseophone are excellent in a very distinct way.

What the hell is up with that kid? So crazy.

My biggest problem, though, is when the movie switches from people to CG and back again. If the scenes were one or the other, they wouldn't get to me. However when they switch from one to the other in the middle of a fight, it always jarred me right out of the movie. Where as Gollum was obviously CG, he fit in with his surroundings nearly flawlessly - Neo and Smith never seemed to blend with anything perhaps each other. And the fight on top of the semi didn't feel as though the semi was actually moving at any sort of speed.

Hugo Weaving and Keanu Reeves get pluses for acting from me. Smith has discovered his sense of humor and it is great. I am glad Keanu is getting the chance to actually act. Not once did he pull me out of the movie and I think that's the first time ever.

All in all, I thought it was an enjoyable movie. It made me think but there was nothing in it that made me feel anywhere near as excited as the opening White House scene in X2.

Date: 2003-05-16 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archeon.livejournal.com
"Neo's ability to sense the machines in the 'real world' doesn't surprise me in the least."

are you sure that's the real world? what if zion and the whole thing is actually still part of the matrix? that would jive with what the architect said... just one possibilty that came up at the lunchtime discussion...

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Date: 2003-05-16 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
That's why I put it in quotes. I've belived that the 'real world' wasn't really the real world either since the first movie.

Date: 2003-05-16 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archeon.livejournal.com
so many layers and possibilities... it gets the mind excited...

Date: 2003-05-19 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamethyme.livejournal.com
I'm not sure.

It very well could be nested matrices.

On the other hand -- if John Tynes was right, and Oracle WAS programming him by feeding him a cookie in the first one, and the candy in the second, perhaps she was (partially) programming him how to put some feedback through his implants, and the real world IS the real world, but he put too much energy through his implants causing the coma state.

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Date: 2003-05-20 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
He didn't eat the candy. Even if she was programming ihim, he didn't eat the candy. He took it but he didn't eat it.

Date: 2003-05-20 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamethyme.livejournal.com
We didn't see him eat the candy.

That doesn't mean he didn't eat it.

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Date: 2003-05-20 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
If it is that important, I think we should have seen him eat it if he eats it. We saw him eat the cookie.

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Date: 2003-05-20 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
He didn't eat the candy. Even if she was programming ihim, he didn't eat the candy. He took it but he didn't eat it.

Date: 2003-05-16 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wanderingfey.livejournal.com
[personal profile] leiden and I were chatting about this on the way back to Bham... Especially with the gift of the spoon being sent to neo.

Date: 2003-05-16 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00t.livejournal.com
That, or the kid was pulled out. But who knows. Smith might have enabled Neo to sense the machines by giving him his ear piece. Speculation, of course. The "obvious" choice is the Matrix within the Matrix. Perhaps after each "failure" of the Matrix they build the new Matrix within the old? So they're really 6 levels deep?

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Date: 2003-05-16 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wanderingfey.livejournal.com
Only problem with the 6 level deep theory is that the programs that are running in the system have been there for 5 previous "One"s and haven't seen any real issues. That and the explanation for the world-reset both in the matrix and in Zion is rather airtight.

Nested system is an almost certainty, though I think there's only going to be one more layer.

Date: 2003-05-16 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00t.livejournal.com
I was just musing. I doubt that it's 6 levels deep. But it would make some degree of sense to have at least 1 backup level of the Matrix to keep people from getting all the way out. Clamp down, reboot. Though if the anomaly occurs after n generations in the back up level eventually you'll have an anomaly that coincides with an anomaly in the back up and they get out. but who knows what the outside looks like? Maybe there's a sentinel like creature sitting there waiting for them. *munch*

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