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There is nothing like watching a few live births on TLC to distinctly remind me why I'm not having children.

Well... There are other reasons, but the sheer fact that watching this makes me queasy... I think that is another good reason to completely avoid all of this.

Date: 2002-09-17 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rfjason.livejournal.com
Would this (http://www.socalbirth.org/resource/vagina.jpg) be one of the reasons?

Date: 2002-09-17 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanb.livejournal.com
Understood.

Last night I was talking with my sister about how the "baby" stage really doesn't have much appeal for me; I'm more drawn to the later developmental stages, when communication and sharing of ideas is possible.

Hmmm, maybe one of these years I'll end up in a long-term relationship. If spouse doesn't have a strong desire for childbearing, I think I might be willing to consider adoption.

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Date: 2002-09-17 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I'm completely thinking about kids. I'm also entirely sold on the idea of adoption. There are enough children out there who need parents that I don't need to be making more.

I just need someone who I trust to be there to help me raise a child for... oh... 16 years or so, depending on the starting age of the child. I don't even need a romantic relationship to be a part of the equation. I just need someone who will be there with me and the kid.

Date: 2002-09-17 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanb.livejournal.com
I wouldn't say I'm COMPLETELY committed to the not-breeding thing ... there's still some tickles in the most egotistical parts of my brain that says things like "Sean, you are so superior that you OWE it to the human race. Human evolution needs your superior genes." That kind of absurd egotism is pretty much the only breeding urge I've been able to identify, and I think I can satisfy much of that by passing on large amounts of knowledge to an apprentice.

But even in my most recent relationship, that voice was rare. I probably would have came to much the same conclusions as you if "the joy of chilbirth" would directly impact me in the same way.

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Date: 2002-09-17 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
*shudders* So don't need to go through that painful screaming experience, I don't think. While I can see circumstances where I would serious think about it, I don't see those circumstances around me anytime soon.

I would like to pass on my genes, but I don't need to. What I'd much rather pass on are my memes.

Date: 2002-09-17 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanb.livejournal.com
Exactly. Hence my comment a few weeks ago that I have much more of a "Padawan urge" than a "baby urge".

Date: 2002-09-17 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
I completely understand. I much mroe want to go, "No, don't do that. Do this." Or "Maybe you should think about that a little more first...."

Date: 2002-09-17 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themarmot.livejournal.com
childbirth. endorphins. nuf sed.

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Date: 2002-09-17 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lithera.livejournal.com
Not nearly enough of them.

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