I say hallelujah. Do you have details? Schedule, price, season-at-a-time boxes, widescreen?
I so wish I'd started watching from the beginnging instead of third season. Watching everything fall into place ("A Minbari not born of Minbari! Dear God!") would have been so much cooler.
Babylon had the depth of a D&D novel. After the first season, and then re-visiting it on the fourth (or somewhere around there) season, I said "be-de-be-de-be-de, Where's Buck?" and changed the channel.
DS9 was romantic, edgy, bitter, hilarious, and developed it's characters more than any other sci fi show I can recall, and just as well as any prime time drama.
I watched both shows fairly regularly. It's hard ot make an argument against a show you didn't watch.
1) Babylon 5 had some of the best characters and character growth I've ever seen. Bester was an amazing villan. Marcus and Ivanova's relationship couldn't have gotten more romantic or more tragic than it was.
2) Politics. There actually were politics that seemed to make sense and to matter to the plot of the show. As far as I could tell the politics that happened in DS9 was just so they could add different kinds of ships into the battles.
3) Alien races. There was so much more creativity in the races on Babylon 5. I understand in DS9 you were dealing with someone else's baby, but still... I did enjoy the warrior guys who were addicted to the drug (can't remember their name right now.) Nothing in DS9 chilled me the way the Borg or the Shadows did.
4) Technology. There was so much less technobabble on B5. There were many many less ocassions of this phase something thingy ma babber going horribly wrong and dooming everyone on board. The technology was much more plausible.
5) Writing - JMS is an amazing writer. His time writing the Amazing Spiderman after he finished B5 help install that in my mind. If that wasn't enough, however, he had people like Neil Gaiman, Harlan Ellison and David Gerrold writing episodes for him.
1) See, I hated the characters when I saw them. They didn't compartmentalize at all. They certainly didn't stick out in my mind.
2) DS9 was a direct examination of current politics, and political philosophy. The parallels in communism, socialism, and facism were a great way to illuminate the tragedies in out current world.
3) DS9 had it's alien moments. They were closer-to-human for the sole purpose of telling a good moral tale.
4) You leave my phase inverter alone.
5) See, I just didn't like his writing. His work never struck me as having strong moral backbone, or a real message to get across.
I dunno. Maybe I missed something. Maybe the SciFi Channel needs to have a Babylon chain reaction. Perhaps I would warm up to it more.
The message he was getting across developed as the story went on. It really started hitting hard in season three forward. Most of season one was setup, to be honest.
Well, SciFi does show it everyday around 5 and they just showed all of the movies a few weekends ago.
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Date: 2002-06-12 09:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-06-12 09:45 am (UTC)I so wish I'd started watching from the beginnging instead of third season. Watching everything fall into place ("A Minbari not born of Minbari! Dear God!") would have been so much cooler.
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Date: 2002-06-12 10:13 am (UTC)Details!
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Date: 2002-06-12 11:38 am (UTC)So much better than DS9. So much better.
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Date: 2002-06-12 11:46 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2002-06-12 12:34 pm (UTC)Babylon had the depth of a D&D novel. After the first season, and then re-visiting it on the fourth (or somewhere around there) season, I said "be-de-be-de-be-de, Where's Buck?" and changed the channel.
DS9 was romantic, edgy, bitter, hilarious, and developed it's characters more than any other sci fi show I can recall, and just as well as any prime time drama.
Not to mention the FX were 10x superior.
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Date: 2002-06-12 12:38 pm (UTC)DS9 struck me as a soap opera in space. Not only that, a lousy soap opera. The plot-lines were weak, and the acting was terrible, in my opinion.
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Date: 2002-06-12 01:10 pm (UTC)1) Babylon 5 had some of the best characters and character growth I've ever seen. Bester was an amazing villan. Marcus and Ivanova's relationship couldn't have gotten more romantic or more tragic than it was.
2) Politics. There actually were politics that seemed to make sense and to matter to the plot of the show. As far as I could tell the politics that happened in DS9 was just so they could add different kinds of ships into the battles.
3) Alien races. There was so much more creativity in the races on Babylon 5. I understand in DS9 you were dealing with someone else's baby, but still... I did enjoy the warrior guys who were addicted to the drug (can't remember their name right now.) Nothing in DS9 chilled me the way the Borg or the Shadows did.
4) Technology. There was so much less technobabble on B5. There were many many less ocassions of this phase something thingy ma babber going horribly wrong and dooming everyone on board. The technology was much more plausible.
5) Writing - JMS is an amazing writer. His time writing the Amazing Spiderman after he finished B5 help install that in my mind. If that wasn't enough, however, he had people like Neil Gaiman, Harlan Ellison and David Gerrold writing episodes for him.
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Date: 2002-06-12 01:58 pm (UTC)2) DS9 was a direct examination of current politics, and political philosophy. The parallels in communism, socialism, and facism were a great way to illuminate the tragedies in out current world.
3) DS9 had it's alien moments. They were closer-to-human for the sole purpose of telling a good moral tale.
4) You leave my phase inverter alone.
5) See, I just didn't like his writing. His work never struck me as having strong moral backbone, or a real message to get across.
I dunno. Maybe I missed something. Maybe the SciFi Channel needs to have a Babylon chain reaction. Perhaps I would warm up to it more.
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Date: 2002-06-12 02:07 pm (UTC)Well, SciFi does show it everyday around 5 and they just showed all of the movies a few weekends ago.
I liked DS9, I just think B5 did it better.
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